31.5.07

lumpenproletariats

I could not have written things better than this, this is a comment I received on the previous post:
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This is great!!!! Not only in the fact that the lecturers have voted but also in the appeal of the four universities...at last there is actual proof the boycott will lead to internal changes and pressure which I think is the only solution.By the way, the International Design Forum took place in Dubai a couple of days ago and in one of the sessions one of the world most prominent designers "Karim Rashid" who is originally from Egypt had referred to a project he was working on with an Israeli peer. When he was asked HOW DO YOU CONNECT PRACTICALITY WITH CULTURE? He was explaining that the project aimed at enhancing the Israeli cultural DISH WHICH IS FALAFIL AND PITTA BREAD.It was outrageous…not only was it normal for him to mention that he was working with an Israeli in a country that claims that it has no diplomatic relations with Israel but he referred to an Arabic dish as part of the Israeli culture. When confronted by one of the people attending he just gave her a lecture about where homos chick peas come from and brushed her off by telling her go do your research! Anyway maybe such an amazing designer whom from what I understood has been a revolutionary in the design sector should be addressed…who knows what could happen?
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The type of people you are talking about can best be analysed through a framework of marxist analysis. In marxist theory they are labelled as lumpenproletariates. which refers to a specific group of people from the class that is oppressed or exploited in the society and they are working against the benefit of their class. In political rehtoric, they are often described as regressive elements of the society. In Neo-marxism they can be more radically described as a group Comprador bourgeoisie.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

an educated person can't be a "lumpen proletariat", it is not acceptable such ignorance and hypocrisy from a famous revolutionary designer speaking during a congress, he's just a new bourgeois without any kind of consciousness about his culture and people, selling himself to the ennemy

Ned said...

That's always a possible analysis. However the term lumpen proletariat in Marxist thinking refer to unproductive and regressive elements of the society.

Anonymous said...

but he is productive he is as i said before a man who was capable of thinking out of the box and a pioneer in the design industry...his position could be "Ignorance" of how big a difference his position could make and that is why i think he should be addessed and others like him too. check this site for more information about him: http://www.karimrashid.com/

Anonymous said...

this is exactly what I was saying, he can't be a lumpen proletariat because he is educated and he could use his education to be less ignorant ...

Ned said...

Ok, I admit my inconsistent use of the term, although I maintain that he still is part of the regressive elements of the society. Maybe a Comprador bourgeoisie?

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Anonymous said...

what an idiot with too much time at his hand!

Anonymous said...

This post is bullshit. Communism is a discredited economic and politcal theory that has resulted in poverty, death, and war wherever it has been attempted.

The fact that an appologist for Islamic fundamentalism uses a Marxist term just goes to show that the agenda behind Islamic fundementalism is poverty, death, and war.

Also:

1) Falafel is a Middle Eastern dish enjoyed by all Middle Easterners-both Israeli and otherwise. Your attempt to claim that Falafel isn't a true Israeli dish is just another aspect of your pathetic attempt to portray Jews in the Middle East as colonial outsiders, not a people who has been in the region continuously for 4,000 years.

2) If you really are a communist, do you agree that religion is the "opiate of the masses?" And if you do, what does that say about Hamas, an Islamic theocratic political party?